Darkseid's presence alone is the black hole. The new Supergirl mentions that she has a lot to talk about with Power Girl, who once thought she also was Superman's cousin. The biggest problem I had was the characters it centers around. Any time Grant Morrison is given free Reign, it turns to weirdness 2000. [–]Atman00Loki 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children). Naturally, Batman escapes, destroys the clone army, and shoots Darkseid with the Radeon bullet he recovered from Orion's murder scene. Enjoyed this article? Instructions for Creators and Previous AMAs, List of websites maintained by /r/comicbook redditors. On the second to last page of issue 6, at the bottom you can see in the background multiple earths appearing in the sky and spiraling down toward us in a whirlpool fashion, with the bleed itself like a malestrom. Not htat it mattered, i feel like half of that book could have been switched around and would have made just as much sense. This is part of Darkseid's plan; he doesn't want the creature to kill Batman, he's using Batman's abilities as the ultimate survivor. 248k. Mr. I've read Morisson before, and I absolutely hate how random his work is. Time slows down more and more as you enter a black hole. So, after finishing Final Crisis, i just can't help but ask myself, What the fuck was he thinking? As with most of Morrison's works, Final Crisis operates on several levels. Grant Morrison is a convoluted nut job. The one below is from Scott Snyder's The Unexpected 2017. The event was standalone, and the other stuff was there if you were interested. [–]victoryviper 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child). I felt that the story overall could have been better and I was comparing it to the earlier "crisis" events. Before Final Crisis kicks off, most of the New Gods have been hunted down and killed by the Black Racer. It's like saying "Ulysses is underwhelming mess, I can hardly understand what's happening!". The story opens with the Justice League called in to investigate the death of Orion. Jones (52 Covers)! This archive is also sinking into a black hole, where the information it contains will be seeded throughout the past. 1.1k. I even read Supergods, which was at times harder to read than heiroglyphics. r/FinalFantasyVII: Welcome to the Final Fantasy VII subreddit! I've got the obvious ones, like Death of the New Gods and Faces of Evil, but I figure maybe one of you guys know better than the inconsistent lists online. Captain Marvel (Earth-5) 1.2. He IS confusing as all hell. (Batman's escape from Darkseid's minions is shown in two issues of Batman, by the way, not in Final Crisis.). Rendered by PID 12956 on r2-app-0b7de0ed6a4e20498 at 2020-12-27 23:13:53.344935+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. The Black Glove stuff is a bit more straightforward, and the Wikipedia entry on Simon Hurt should tell you most of what you need to know. While at the same time Mark Richards, aka the Tattooed Man, and his family are trying to remain hidden from Darkseid's forces. I read everything to do with Forever Evil, and even though some of them weren't great, it made me like the main event more. Mark and his son Leon eventually run into Black Lightning and are forced to Final Crisis: Submit #1 is a one-shot with a cover date of December, 2008. The Flash (Barry Allen) 3. Geoff Johns did that with like a 95% passing rate for blackest night. Ignorance reigns supreme, with only the Daily Planet left as a source of information. Supergirl 7. He died a meta-textual death in Superman Beyond (because if Darkseid is all evil, that thing Superman fought could only be another portion of Darkseid himself.) It wasn't random and incomprehensible, you just didn't understand it. I typed up an easier to grasp summary of Final Crisis a while back and pasted it below. Batman 702 and The Return of Bruce Wayne #6 are the two that most directly tie together Final Crisis and RoBW. Wow dude..That was quite an answer. Though the animation depicts Sephiroth slashin… After Infinite Crisis there's 52 (a weekly) which leads into Countdown (another weekly) which lead into Final Crisis. Then he had his final conceptual death when Superman sang. how does he keep getting work? Superman doesn't understand why he is still there, as he helped the Legion defeat [[Kal-El (Earth-Prime) Final Crisis #6 is an issue of the series Final Crisis (Volume 1) with a cover date of January, 2009. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: To set your flair please use the flair picker. If you are a creator who is interested in setting up an AMA please see the AMA instructions in the FAQ. The events of the Final Crisis have been referenced throughout the New 52 Universe, but the exact events that unfolded are uncertain. (I could talk about Return of Bruce Wayne, how Darkseid ties into the Black Glove, and why he sent Batman skipping through time rather than kill him, but it's not relevant to Final Crisis.) I certainly don't begrudge any readers that don't care for this approach, but lot of people really enjoy it. Final Crisis. In this video, I'll be checking out one of the most highly anticipated releases of the year, the Final Crisis 10th Anniversary Omnibus. The Prequels, the Tie-ins, 52, Sinestro Corps War, et al. Founder of Bleeding Cool. Thought this sub might enjoy/appreciate this. Heroes In Crisis #9 by Tom King and Clay Mann is published on Wednesday. Batman, disguised as one of the archivists at the end of the universe, reprogrammed the hunter/killer concept, and used it to inspire his own mythology. Still holding on to the instinct to hunt down Bruce Wayne, it crashes through the billionaire's window. I typed up an easier to grasp summary of Final Crisis a while back and pasted it below. For the uninitiated, Before Crisis was an action-RPG prequel to Final Fantasy 7 that launched all the way back in 2004 for Japanese mobile devices. How did that make sense? The ONLY thing i've liked of his was All Star Superman. The longest-serving digital news reporter in the world, since 1992. [–]Atman00Loki 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child), More than just his presence, Darkseid's dying was the black hole. Explaining the origins of Cloud is not the point of this game. Recently I took on a task to read everything that had to do with Infinite Crisis. [–]Thmcdonald1Grant Morrison Apologist 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child), it's not bad...it just has layers and layers of depth and is super ambitious. (It's all very cyclic, much like everything in this story.). (The Hole in Things, a concept that keeps coming up.) ... A reddit for fans of comic books, graphic novels, and digital comics. But in creating Batman, Darkseid also created his own undoing. The gist of it is this: Batman's entire life is defined by crime. I don't just mean that he's a bad guy. I'll just catch up when i get home from the Army. Sephiroth charges forward while swinging five times, turning in the air to track opponents. and join one of thousands of communities. About Rich Johnston. Overall, it's okay that you don't get it. Hi I have just played through the original ff7 on pc and now I want to play crisis core so does anyone know and ways to play it without spending over $100 ... Subreddit for all things Final Fantasy! You should check out Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibuses and regular Batman trades first. Again, if you can be more specific about what you are interested in. I dont want to have to dig through 60 years of garbage to "get it". To fully understand Final Crisis, you can't just read it through once or twice. I consider my self "well read" in the DC universe but by no means an expert or claim to understand every nook and cranny. I'm gonna have to read this again. Yes. The Archive at the end of the universe contains all of the important information in the universe on display, save for a few important details about Batman's life. Feels bad, man. If you're interested at all, I recommend reading everything in order. And there are a lot of people who agree with me about his writing, so i honestly don't understand why he's so big. It makes sense but it takes time to understand. Final Crisis itself is very meta textual, as the story itself is an allegory for how to overcome depression. @Crom-Cruach said: " Infinite Crisis then 52 if you liked Crisis on infinite earths. Please only report missing issues after attempting a thorough search, and do not submit false information. help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. If you have any specific "What the hell was going on when..." questions, feel free to ask. Right now I'm reading Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers, next is Countdown. He had symbolic death when The Black Racer found him. Turns out the Crisis was born on that day, when the Monitor accidentally punched a hole into the Anti-Monitor’s unive… I've read Final Crisis twice now. I would like to hear about the connection to RBW and Black Glove if you have the time. This is the Cosmology. Injustice 3: Final Crisis is the fan-made sequel of Injustice 2 created by Astral-New-X. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. [–]Thmcdonald1Grant Morrison Apologist 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children), I am the hole in things...the enemy, the piece that can never fit, there since the beginning, [–]duhreetoesBatman 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children). Please fill out the following form to report an issue missing from the database. His origins are explained in FF7. BB. By extension, Darkseid is the reason Batman exists. The story is not there to serve the continuity. [DC Rebirth Holiday Special #1], Jack Kirbys name appears on the wall of Mentors, that 22 has had in the Pixar film Soul. True Believers. Final Crisis Hardcover in shops now. Everything else in the book is just about Darkseid's forces turning Earth into their new home, and the various ways the heroes fight back. Here's a link to a reading list for Final Crisis. He used it as a way of dealing with his crippling loneliness that only an entire lifetime of being Grant Morrison can cause. Anyway, it was the skeleton of one of those Batman clones that Superman found. Skrulls. Created Mar 28, 2008. If he is more restricted in what he is allowed to write (see Action Comics #1), he turns brilliant. For greater detail, you should check out David Uzumeri's annotations. Darkseid wasn't just a God he was a concept, so he needed to be defeated on every level a concept can exist. Yeah, Final Crisis might be intimidating for a new reader. After I read all that, I re-read Infinite Crisis and I understood everything. Venom/Nightmare Before Christmas Mashup by Oscar Romero, [Excerpt] 2020 can't end soon enough [Mister Miracle #3]. Black Racer is Death. I want to make a few things clear at the start: Grant Morrison is a great writer and I enjoy almost everything he’s done. Apollo 1.3. Just had to comment to tell you how amazing your explanation is. Grant Morrison himself acknowledged a good portion of readers just hated it. (3) JG Jones just shouldn't have been the artist. More importantly, he can bring others through. Grant didn't even read it! Supermen of the Multiverse 1.1. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children). "How to Murder the Earth":In the 31st Century, Brainiac 5 leads Superman to the Legion armory. Wonder Woman 5. Close. CMV: Final Crisis sucks. In the process, he is hit with Darkseid's Omega Sanction and hurled into the past. Final Crisis was made to be read a few times so that people who go back are rewarded by the things they missed. It's all cyclical. Everything in Final Crisis happens because Darkseid trying to escape Death. Morrison's Batman epic is one that has been building for years. The Demon Dogs which hunt Batman later appear in Final Crisis. All of Morrison's Batman run happened, which means Return of Bruce Wayne happened, and Final Crisis was essential to the events of Return of Bruce Wayne. Created Mar 10, 2008. [+]BlackRage comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (1 child). I've read all of Morisson's batman up until RoBW, and None of it made sense until i read your comment. It features every character presented in the Injustice games. Darkseid only recalls having fought the Justice League once, and the New Gods of both Apokolips and New Genesis still exist during the Godhead and Robin Rises events. When Batman's life hit the point of this concept's creation (Batman shooting Darkseid with the Radeon bullet) it becomes more literal, and starts circling in for the final kill. One of the reasons Darkseid had so many different deaths in Final Crisis is that he had to die on so many different levels. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 12956 on r2-app-0b7de0ed6a4e20498 at 2020-12-27 23:13:53.344935+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. haha, [–]thesirblondieSwamp Thing 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children). Here's a link to a reading list for Final Crisis. Just move a long, and catch up with the new 52. There were three villains, superman randomly bounced to an alternate dimension, where he was supposed to gather other superman, but ended up leaving them randomly, too. Final Crisis is a grand and multi-layered DC comics crossover event that only a few can pull off, like Grant Morrison. I didn't like Blackest Night, I thought it was gimmicky. (Pulp by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips), [Excerpt] Happy Holidays from the Detective, the Butler, and the Billionaire. Simultaneously I want to read the complete Final Crisis but want to try and go in the correct reading order. 1.6m. I liked Final Crisis for what it was but I felt on the whole it didn't add much to the universe with the exception to Bruce Wayne being replaced by Dick Grayson. This is intended to be a non-spoilery review – if you want spoilers … I read the trade, so unless they messed it up, i read it in order. Just all these random people popping up for five seconds only to disappear right afterwards. Seriously, what the fuck? Before Final Crisis kicks off, most of the New Gods have been hunted down and killed by … I didn't understand it the first time I read it either. Orion is Darkseid's son, and was prophesied to kill Darkseid. Crisis Core serves more as an explanation of Genesis' origins and setting the stage up for a future FF7 title, but it's mainly an insight into Zack's life and how his actions impacted … Anyone coming from the outside would be unable to reach the planet. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children). [–]bootywind[S] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child). (Batman's escape from Darkseid's minions is shown in two issues of Batman, by the way, not in Final Crisis.) Regarding the underwhelming comment. You seem to have an excellent grasp of the material. The universe spiraling down the drain, and this is the literal death spiral of Darkseid. If you want to read stories that can be breezed through in one sitting, just keep reading Johns. (self.comicbooks). [Excerpt] If you're going to commit a crime, don't hurt innocent people. It costs 40 CP to equip and 300 AP to master. His death throes created a hole in reality. 6 years ago [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children). He had the classic "Beaten by a Superhero" death when Batman shot him, (which, truth be told, played far more into Batman mythology Morrison was building than the Darkseid one) and again when his armies were finally driven off of Earth (because Darkseid is all of his minions. It's not a personality trait, he is the literal embodiment of evil. Are you together? Majestic 1.4. I like reading complete events. I like my Comic events to be neat and packaged within their limited run. This won't be perfect; mostly just broad strokes, and there might be a few things I'm misremembering. Featured Characters: 1. It was awesome. ), [–]The_Cutest_of_Borg 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children). Symbolism, metaphor, and meta-text are all essential to its telling. The bullet that killed Darkseid was an archetype bullet. Before Crisis … Darkseid is using Batman as a weapon for his own revenge. Crisis Core is the reason why you don't include J-Rock star likeness or music not produced specifically for a game in a game. Wow. One of the themes of Final Crisis is that the continuity is there to serve the story. To keep Death from finding him again, he is sinking the Earth into a black hole. Final Crisis: Rage of the Red Lanterns #1 doesn’t really have anything to do with the actual Final Crisis event and I suggest reading it after the event as part of the lead up to Blackest Night. Also try Morrison's JLA--it's more grounded and amazingly fun to read! I didn't the first time because I bought the single issues. In short I have two lists: one for Batman and one for FC and I wanted some help cross referencing them and putting together a comprehensive list for a simultaneous read of … Celebrating Kwanzaa with Darla, Wallace, Jo, Naomi and Duke. 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